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 Tuesday, August 22, 2006


The Monster Cable Scam/Myth   
When I was looking for my HDTV set I went to Best Buy and Circuit City.  They only sell Monster cables.  In fact the salesmen tell you all kinds of nasty things will happen to your new set if you don't use their cable.   This is how I uncovered a scam played on an unknowing public. I call it the Monster Cable scam.  Before I uncover this scam let me give you a little history.

monster.jpgYears ago when stereo's became popular, some people would use any kind of wire for the speakers. The typical impedance of a speaker is 8 ohms.  If a small AWG (thats american wire gague, it is a measure of the thickness of the wire) is used, like 22AWG, and the speakers are located a long distance from the amplifier, then you could easily lose your power to the resistance in the wires. Enter Monster Cables. What they really were selling, in my opinion, was education. Anyone could simply purchase some cheap thicker wire from Radio Shack and make a good connection (the other mistake people were making) to their equipment and bypass Monster and get great sound and power. But notice, that you were transmitting electrical POWER to the speaker, not a small signal.

I think what happened is that Monster must have some brilliant marketing people. They must have realized the Monster brand value. They recognized that everyone would be purchasing HD sets for thousands of dollars. Monster could charge $100 for a cable because the consumer was already spending much more. The consumer was mentally prepared to spend $1000-$4000 and had lots of free money (or they would not be looking at a new HD set to begin with). The consumer probably was also snowed under in technical jargon at the point of purchased their HD set.  The choices and options when purchasing an analog TV 20 years ago sure seemed less involved.

Now I will uncover the scam
. An HDMI or DVI video signal is a small signal and it is digital. It is either good or not good. There is NO signal degredation. I will insert one cavet here, keep your video  wire length reasonable , like under 8 feet. I use cheap cable from Radio Shack and the video on my HD set looks spectacular. Let me give you two examples. A Monster HDMI cable from Best Buy is $120. I purchased the same thing on the internet for $10. My second example is sure to cause some disagreement. A Monster Component video cable is $80. A cheap wire from Radio Shack with RCA jacks on both ends is $2.30. I use the cheap wire on my HD set and cannot see any noise or loss of signal. Note that the component video signal is small signal and an analog signal.

Now don't get me wrong. I do belive the Monster cable is a nice looking durable cable. If you got the bucks then go ahead and get one or two. But the sales tactics at these stores should make the buying public cautious. This blog might be a good forum for me to answer some questions about purchasing an HD set. Leave a comment here with any questions. Next week, the myth about Electronic (reverse phase) dimmers busted!


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Lonely Hearts said...

I think this is a smart analysis of yours. People were just ready to buy anything else except you know who???

Monday, August 28, 2006 9:35 PM

Michael Jensen said...

I do believe analog cables (even for low voltage signals) should be good, but not so for digital cables. Think about it: a $10 100ft cat5 ethernet cable handles data at 100Mbit/s with no loss. It's good enough for large organizations running mission critical applications. Why should I pay $100/ft for a digital coax cable which carries perhaps data at 10Mbit/s. But what about HDMI? The spec mentions 4-10Gbit/s which is 10 times as much as cat6 ethernet.

Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:51 AM

stugots said...

Do you thing using my cable provider's HDMI cable is adequate or should I go out and buy a "better" kind ?

Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:25 PM

Pasta with clams said...

Do you like pasta with white clam sauce or red ? who cares about HDMI.. FORGETABOUTIT....... Theres soldiers getting killed in this crazy war and we are here worrying about HDMI cables... only in America !!

Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:28 PM

Mr. Potato Head said...

I just bought a 46" SAMSUNG LCD LNT4665F.......what a picture!! it's ridiculous.. and guess what! I used component wires...hell with those HDMI bull sht...

Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:31 PM

Ben Dover said...

Thats what these places like to do to you when you go out and purchase a flat screen. I carry a jar of vaciline with me when I go shopping for TV's... when they ask what I have a jar of vaciline I tell them that it's to minimize the pain when they bend me over and charge me $80 for HDMI cables.

Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:33 PM

Darth Meatloaf said...

@Pasta with clams: What? I have nothing but respect for the soldiers, but that is not an appropriate interjection here... @stugots: Unless the HDMI cable provided by your cable company feels like it's going to fall apart, then it's the same as any cable you'll buy at Radio Shack or online. No need to spend any money if they already gave it to you - I should know, I work for my local cable company... I completely agree with the post. The only thing I would add to it is that while cheap wires are good for 99% of applications, it may be worthwhile to get the slightly (or in some cases ridiculously...) more expensive cables if you have to run them a relatively long distance. My reasoning on that is that cheaper wires often remain cheap due to quality control and their shielding may not be perfectly continuous. This doesn't affect short runs, but when you are forced to use 20-30 feet of cable shielding can become the most important part.

Friday, December 14, 2007 1:42 AM

JAKE said...

I work at a circuit city and we sell monster and nexttech hdmi cable. I tested Monster's 1000 (the best Monster HDMI cable out in the market) against the cheapest nexttech. I used a samsung lnt5271f, it's a state of the art 120hrz processor and a samsung blu-ray. Acording to moster's 1000 package, this cable gives you the best bandwith, specially made for TV's with 120htz. The picture looked great and then I tried the nextech. The picture using the Nexttech look the same as the monster's. There was no diffrence at all in any sence, the movement was iddentical. Monster cables are strong, but the proof is in the puding, and it taste like a RIP OFF

Friday, December 14, 2007 4:07 AM

Damon said...

Hey! Jake! Thank you for that. I have been to two Circuit Cities and talked to the salespeople there. I have to say it was a much better experience than at your competitor (BB).

Friday, December 14, 2007 8:05 AM

Steve Rush said...

You said it! Except, of course, for the standard mistake of calling plugs jacks. I used to work for a party DJ. His speaker cables were 14AWG lamp cord, purchased in bulk. For low-level patch cables, we didn't use the cheapest stuff because we frequently reconnected everything and wanted durable connectors, but we would have given the one-finger salute to any salesman who tried to sell us a $100 patch cable. We got a good laugh out of the audiophools and their $1000 cables that allegedly needed 'seasoning' and were marked with the direction of signal flow. Decades ago, one of the audio-industry (not "Audiophile") magazines did a comparison of expensive speaker cables. What they used for a reference standard was welding cable, which outperformed all of the proprietary stuff.

Friday, December 14, 2007 12:34 PM

DarkMantle said...

I can't believe anyone is taking advice about display quality from a guy who has white text, on a black and white background. I got a headache now.

Friday, December 14, 2007 8:57 PM

Zero said...

I buy most things off of newegg.com If you know what you are looking for you can get it there cheap. Cat 5 cable in a store, (best buy/ walmart, whatever.) $24 for and 8 ft cable. On newegg 10ft cable are less than $3, and if you buy 8 or more, shipping is most of th time free. So I spent $24 and got 8, 10 foot cables and had to wait 3 days. Never had a problem. I also have used lamp cord for speakers. ( the old school gold plastic coated kind ) Would run 1200watts all day long. and 100ft is $20. Because wires are all the same (mostly) inside. Great article.

Friday, December 14, 2007 10:04 PM

J said...

monoprice.com has all of the HDMI, optical, coax, PS3, etc. cables you could ask for, usually well under $10.

Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:57 PM

Walter Hutto said...

Is a Power Bar and/or a surge protector a good purchase far a HD TV? Thanks! Walter Hutto Charlotte, NC

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:19 PM

damon said...

A surge protector is a good purchase. You can overpay for one very easily though. The amount of surge or spike it can absorb is measured in joules. Look for one with a large joule rating. Don't pay more than $50 for one. Don't get one of the way overpriced Monster surge supressors if you want a good value. Even better is to have an electrician install a whole house surge supressor. I have one of those and don't need to worry about anything in my house now. Since labor is involved expect to pay about $300 for one, but it's worth it!

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:13 AM

VComps said...

Better yet, use one with AC line filtration - it'll help filter out annoying pollution from other appliances/houses/passing trains :)

Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:26 PM

Mike Hunt said...

Pasta? Clams? War? Go buy the cheapest HDMI cable you can find (about $5 online) put on a HD video of Led Zepp, turn up the volume and forget the world

Monday, May 19, 2008 3:19 AM

squidlips said...

I have just purchased a samsung 52" full hd lcd tv, the salesman then went on with the pitch to sell me a $300.00 surge board and a $300.00 hdmi cable.....it's all based on emotion and profits!! "you wont get full 1080 picture without them and your set will blow up without the surge board"!! I then enquired about a $100.. DVD player he still recomended the expensive cables, why would I spend 3 times the money of the dvd on a cable??? have a read of the review below....cheers from OZ http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2309p111id121777.htm

Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:32 PM

Damon said...

Oz, That is typical! OK. Here is more succient proof that you don't need to spend more than $20 for a cable. ANY CABLE THAT HAS THE "HDMI" ORG LOGO ON IT MUST MEET THEIR SPECS. That is wether it is a $10 or $300 cable they must both meet the same requirements.

Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:21 AM

Scotty said...

The <a href="http://www.gizmorepublic.com/accessories/monster-hdmi-cable-scam-830">HDMI cable scam</a> is most insidious!

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:10 PM

Tony said...

Well if all cables are the same as you claim then how come my PS3 looks much better on my the expensive cable then the cheap one?? NOTICEABLY.

Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:38 AM

lawlzerz said...

a lot of you are idiots. not all hdmi cables are the same. you have to take notice on the bandwidths of the cable. higher bandwidth. more color, x.v. color dts surround etc. it can produce. if it doesnt display bandwidth then dont bother buying it.

Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:41 PM

Mike said...

I decided to compare my $100 monster component cables with basic RCA cables plus one single ended yellow "video" rca type cable. There was zero difference on my 50" Panasonic Viera plasma. Anybody who has been around long enough remembers when Monster did strictly car audio crap and then moved on to the somewhat more spendy noob "home theatre" crowd after the car people caught on to the myth.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:51 AM

Dan said...

If you spend more on a cable, your mind may trick you into thinking that it gives better results. This is not uncommon. Also, most HDMI cables really are the same. Many, possibly most, of the older ones will still have enough bandwidth to carry that deep color and advanced audio. They just aren't certified!

Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34 PM

Joe said...

I work in an electronics shop and my manager told me that the only difference between the cheap HDMIs and 'premium' ones is the margin for the shop. We only use the cheap ones for the display tvs running blu-ray

Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:58 PM

DJPik said...

more proof? chk out this link... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tIf8HLZK6a8

Friday, December 12, 2008 10:15 AM

kansur0 said...

Digital "signals" are zeros and ones. Materials may have played a role in analog days because analog relied on signal purity though better electron transfer. (the longer the cable the grainier the image because information is lost though signal distortion) Today...digital "signal" is actually purely digital. It's all numbers. That is why MONSTER CABLES are a scam. The "low grade" delivers the same picture because it's all zeros and ones (digital information) that is given for the video stream. (stream is the name given to the linear data of 01001010) All bits and bytes!!! Any cable will do!

Friday, October 02, 2009 10:53 AM

JV said...

Component cables should be the same cheap or expensive (of course except maybe the shielding or the contacts, depending on the specific cable). But, HDMI, there can be a difference. I work in a large electronice store, and I know that yes all HDMI cables ar ethe same except again, shielding and contatcs. I would like to know what you think about 8/10/16 bit colour ratings?? Because once again, I can get all cables for cheap so I don't care, but there is a noticeable difference when you switch a blu-ray player from 8 to 10 bit colour. Like really noticeable. I was setting up a demo and used a Monster cable first. Put a disc in and switched from 8 to 10 bit colour and it looked better at 10 bit. Then I used Dynex and did the same thing, and when I switched from 8 t0 10 bit, it went like pink and red and green. Weird messed up colours, obviously it was stressing the cable. I tried it with a more expensive Rocketfish cable and did the same thing. None of the Monster ones did this...

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:57 PM

Damon said...

Dear JV, If the cable carries the HDMI tradmark, then it is rated FULL hdmi. They test it before they license the trademark. -Damon

Friday, December 18, 2009 10:42 PM

Daniel said...

Were they all 1.3a cat2 certified? If it is certified to a certain spec then it will perform at that spec (regardless of length/gauge) or it is faulty cable that should be replaced. I have a $3.80 monoprice cable that works great on my xbox 360. I bought 3 cables and got them for $17.47 shipped. I figured i'd buy a few so if I did get a bad one, I wouldn't worry about buying another and paying shipping twice... My first one worked and I'll assume the other two do as well for now.

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:23 AM

Ryan Thomas said...

I completely disagree with this. Most of the stuff you are saying is yes correct. But there are limits on the amount of data transferred throught the cable. What monster are selling are cables that can cope with alot more data. But what they dont tell you is that it isnt needed, I mean you use a normal hd cable with ur ps3 and monster cable u wont see the difference however, when i connect my laptop with hdmi to the tv with a normal cable it will have poor quality and when i used the monster cable. WOAH! its like better than the laptop screen. thats where the difference really is noticable. I do believe that at point of sale people will nearly pay anything. like $600 to hang the tv on wall. ?. I think maybe in the future these cables will be more noticeable but seeing as something like a ps3 isnt going to use that much data its fine.

Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:12 PM

Peter Wilson said...

Most people on here are trying to justify to themselves why they themselves are cheap, and shouldnt spend any money on cables. If they had the money they would buy the more expensive cables because they do make a difference with the correct equipment. thats fact.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:45 AM

Damon said...

Looks like you got scammed!

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:15 AM

Peter Wilson said...

looks like your a tight arse! :) I enjoy the best available video/audio whilst you imagine you do. But hey as long as you can justify that to yourself we are all happy.

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:19 PM

Derek said...

Looks like this has been taken over by Monster employees. The people who are claiming that these expensive cables are better are either lying or deluded. I would guess that you are more likely to get a defective cable if you buy the cheapest one you could find, but at the price difference you could just do what the poster above suggested and buy a few of them.

Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:00 AM

Billy said...

Probably the same people that think a $500 amp is just as good as a $3000 amp lol, and that 1080p doesn't make a difference hahaha you should embrace technology don't deny it's qualities because you cannot afford it. If in doubt do Simultaneous tests so you can compare side by side with the same hardware different cable etc. Peace

Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:40 AM

Balanced truth said...

I got my cheap HDMI 1.3b cables from Amazon basics and monoprice for about $6-7. At 6 feet there is no signal loss. To pay more is stupid. BUT if you are running projector in a large home cinema (30-50 feet), you might want to check some spectrum analysis tests. What happens is that voltage representation of a digital signal dampens and becomes more obscure over LARGE distance, so errors will occur. I've read online test where medium priced cables were the worst, cheapest second best and premium monster only marginally better (also failing!) at large distance. Reference: Gizmodo's "The Truth About Monster Cable, Part 2 (Verdict: Cheap Cables Keep Up...Usually)"

Monday, February 08, 2010 6:11 PM

KP said...

8 Ft. Monster Cable HDMI for $25 shipping included. http://www.buy.com/prod/ultra-series-thx800-hdmiv-8-ft-hdmi-cbl/q/loc/111/203086372.html?adid=17654

Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:06 AM

damon said...

I talked with Best Buy sales employees and they swear that Monster product managers came in and convinced them that they needed to sell their cables or the picture would suffer. They claim they were lied to. Personally I think both parties were to blame for the deception. Looks like Monster has lowered their prices on the HDMI cable to turn public opinion.

Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:03 AM

Greg said...

Monster Cable is still a complete scam. Sure, their cables work. So do the $6.00 Amazon Basics cables, which is why it has over 100 reviews with an avg. 4.5 out of 5. I was at Best Buy here in Canada and one of the Monster Cable "Ultra Super Special Fantastic" 6ft. cable is $183!!!

Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:28 PM

Intelligence said...

Anyone who chooses ignorance gets what they chose... including the price tag.

Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:04 AM

Get Real said...

You don't need Monster cables for stereos either...that is another myth. And cables don't have "bandwidth" - who sold you that nonsense??? If they are actually constructed better - that is another story - but honestly, not at that ridiculous price. And yes there is a difference between a $500 PA and a $3,000 PA because of design, component selection, and power supplies. But when it comes to speaker cable, copper is copper. Just don't use magnet wire.

Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:09 PM

James Garry said...

>And cables don't have "bandwidth" Oh yes they do. Like any information conduit (a waveguide, an optical fibre, etc) a cable will have a window of transmission, bounded by regions of partial transmission. Read up on the skin effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

Monday, April 05, 2010 12:05 PM

Get Real said...

You are confusing the window of frequencies at which a conductor is efficient (low loss) with how much information a conductor can carry. Skin effect has to do with higher frequency (that is RF range) waves riding in the outer part (skin) of the conductor. This means higher resistance (and higher loss) for smaller DIAMETER wire at higher frequencies. And we are talking copper conductors here, not waveguides or fiber optics. By the way, exactly how much bandwidth do you think a single digital channel occupies?

Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:24 AM

guy with more than 2 brain cells said...

all of the comments saying HDMI cables matter = Monster Cable viral marketers or some schmucks who just paid $200 for a $4 product and are trying to justify it to themselves. Check the IPs; I bet most of them are the same, lol

Monday, May 10, 2010 4:29 PM

Montrealer said...

I am sick of this scam, there are cables in Futureshop (it's an electronic shop in Canada) and BestBuy selling for over $300. It's a cable for God's sake. I always argue with the employees there, and they always change their reply. The latest one is that Monster cables last longer. You know what, I don't care, in 10 years from now this whole technology will become obsolete anyway, and an ebay store is selling 5 cables for $12 (the lot).

Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:46 PM

Eugene said...

Thanks for flagging these overpriced products.You are paying for all that fancy packaging and advertising from the big stores of course. Same goes for CAT6 and fiber-optic cables too. Eugene (in cabling 20 years) www.cableteq.com

Monday, June 07, 2010 11:36 AM

Gary Wilson said...

Monstor started their scam with audio cables. As long as a cable meets basic specs, it's fine. Ask any Electrical Engineer or licensed Amateur Radio operator who have to pas testsa to prove they know electtonics But there will always be suckers who thing that a special cable name will magically overcome Ohm's law, just like folks who like the inherrent losses like tube amplifiers sound over transistors!

Monday, June 21, 2010 12:45 PM

simon said...

We all know these cables are a scam. The reason these retailers sell them is that tv's and electrical equiptment sales is so compeditive there is hardly any margin for them to make money. Most of the price you pay for a monster cable goes to the retailer. They get you into the shop on a really cheap tv and have to make money somehow. they make more money out of the $200 cable than the $2000 TV. This is why their sales guys are so well rehearsed on the bullshit speel.

Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:22 AM

Ivan K. Strausz, MD said...

What kind of cable should I use if I must add a length of cable - about three feet - bacuse I have had to relocate my receiver and CD player. To be honest: I undertand the constant stupid selling of STUFF - but the one loudspeaker I had enough monster cable for works just fine, the other three were re-wired using regular wires, and these sare silent - totally silent! I was surprised as well as dismayed of course... Thanks, IKS MD

Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:16 PM

Ivan K. Strausz, MD said...

Similar to your quote from Einstein, one from Nietzsche, and I think better phrased: "We have Art so that we shall not die of the Truth" or something close to that... Would really appreciate cable advice... Thanks, IKS

Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:35 PM

Jay said...

try using a 12 dollar hdmi cable to pass 3d, will not work, have tested with multiple types of televisions at work. You really do get what you pay for...

Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:10 PM

>80 I.Q. said...

Wow, so many monster-cables viral marketers on here, lol. Well, nevermind; it's most likely just one person. How much do they pay you, buddy?

Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:17 PM

Max said...

If you purchase a Ferrari, you can put two kinds of tires on it. Cheap ones, or expensive ones. You can't tell the difference. You own a Ferrari, what tires are you going to use? The expensive ones. I don't 100% agree with Monster, but the case above is true. Also, if a sales associate sells you a cable at full price in a package, walk away. Having said that, don't go purchasing a TV with the intent to nickle and dime. All three parties must profit, the company, the consumer, and the salesman.

Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:34 PM

Max said...

If you purchase a Ferrari, you can put two kinds of tires on it. Cheap ones, or expensive ones. You can't tell the difference. You own a Ferrari, what tires are you going to use? The expensive ones. I don't 100% agree with Monster, but the case above is true. Also, if a sales associate sells you a cable at full price in a package, walk away. Having said that, don't go purchasing a TV with the intent to nickle and dime. All three parties must profit, the company, the consumer, and the salesman.

Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:41 PM

David Lisney said...

I bought an AV amplifier over the weekend, asked the salesman how much their HDMI cables were... needless to say none were sensible price. So went elsewhere and got some cheapies. They work fine of course and look to be well made. I work in broadcasting, we use well made conventional interconnects, no linear crystal oxygen free copper here! The analysis at the top is correct and the case for large conductor speaker cables is sound, but no need to get audiophool stuff.

Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:09 AM

U got pwned said...

Hey here's a thought, let's all go sue monster cable for "lying" about their "scam" hdmi. I mean, if they are putting all that crap on their packaging, don't you think they have the tests to back it up. GOD! You guys are ridiculous!

Monday, October 18, 2010 7:49 PM

Bill Doshty said...

Anyone who actually paid for a Monster cable is an idiot. Especially the people here trying to say that Monster cables make a difference. You are the dumbest people on the planet. You are part of the reason that 1/4 the world is literally retarded.

Friday, November 19, 2010 12:17 PM

noodle said...

fuck me I am so glad I saw this .I am going to buy a 50 inch 3d tv next week and went into the shop to look and the guy said I needed a monster hdmi 1.4 at 79.99 pounds then he told me I need a monster surge protecter at 180.99. bought 2 hdmi from amazon for 29.00 for both . so the twat in the shop can take his face for a shit when I see HIM NEXT

Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:57 PM

Joe said...

Max said... "If you purchase a Ferrari, you can put two kinds of tires on it. Cheap ones, or expensive ones. You can't tell the difference. You own a Ferrari, what tires are you going to use? The expensive ones." That is an absurd line of thinking. You're arguing that since you spent $100,000 on a Ferrari, overspending on the tires by $10,000 is no big deal. That's exactly the marketing line Monster is using. If you spend $1500 on a TV, what's an extra $100? The problem is, you're still losing $100. If you want to show off your expensive tires on your Ferrari, fine, but are you going to purposely expose your Monster cables from behind your TV so your friends can see what expensive taste you have? That is absurd.

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:04 PM

Mike said...

Wow, quite the talk, few people like Monster Cable. I've been in electronics for 30 years and I must say (for the most part) I agree. Certainlty digital signals will show no loss of quality unless the signal drops so low that the reciever can not "see" it. Remember this type of signal is an on/off one like switching a light on and off, as long as the light can turn on and off the system will work. We use these signals because they are reliable and not easily degraded by outside forces. When it comes to analogue audio cables spend 5-10 bucks and you will get a fair quality one. I think the best indication cheap is fine here is this. What is included with most surround sound packages (brandname or otherwise) inexpensive cables, that does not mean poorly consructed.

Monday, June 27, 2011 8:32 AM

bon said...

you guys are retarded

Monday, September 12, 2011 11:46 AM

Steve said...

What is the point in an hd converter box from say, time Warner cable? The signal comes in from the outside box to the HD box in are home through coaxle then goes from the HD box to the TV through HDMI. If the signal starts with coaxle why not just continue it with coaxle up to the TV it cant make the picture or sound any better can it?

Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:08 PM

Yep said...

I think most of you are forgeting what Monster Cables were designed for. Some of their cables will make little to no differance, they are just high qualitity cables that use high quality connections. Their low end stuff is designed to compete with the box store crap that is all. The company tries to have a product for different budgets, but I do not agree whith how these cables are pushed on people. Their high end stuff which most people cannot afford is designed for high end HiFi and Home AV systems. Yes cables have minimium design standards but when your system exceeds the minium standards the Monsters or some other similar brand is what you need. Buy a Simaudio CP-8, MC-8 with a 750 DAC / CD Transport and some high quality speakers. Try some cables from Walmart then try the Monsters. You will notice a differance. Don't expect an expensive analog cable to work wonders on anything you'll buy from a box store, it's not going to happen.

Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:52 PM

bobby k said...

the other big scam cable burn in WTF? are you kidding me Horse puckies cables don't need to be burned in there is never enough current flowing to raise conductor temps i was on a high snot audiophile website guy claimed he could hear the sound difference in the expensive powercord($655) he had just bought he forgets all the crappy house wiring that went ahead of it whatever he is smoking i'll take 2 bags of it

Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:32 AM

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